Bending Wedges

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By Andrew K

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  1. Andrew K

    Andrew K
    MI

    How many have bent your wedges 2* Strong? I currently have SM6 52* and 56* wedges and my new PW will be 46* (AP2). I really don't want to buy new wedges to fill in the gap. My thought process is to take the 52 and turn it into a 50 and 56 into a 54 and add a 58. My 52 has 8* of bounce and the 56 has 14*. I don't want to lower the loft as I feel the bounce will be too much.

  2. Ben A

    Ben A
    Los Gatos, CA

    I have bent my wedges many many times over the years as wedges change and as my feel and needs change. I usually mess around the most either when a wedge is new and the design has changed (like it did for the SM5 to SM6 range for me) or when my wedges are reaching end of life and I feel like messing with them to see what might work better with my next set.

    My last major change was when I changed my 60.08 SM6 because I felt the bounce was more severe than in the SM5 because of the wider sole. I bent it to a 58.06 and I stayed with that and liked it. (now my SM7s are all standard loft though).

    You could change your 52.08 to a 50.06 and you could change your 56.14 to a 54.10.

    "I don't want to lower the loft as I feel the bounce will be too much." You may be thinking of this in the reverse way. Making the loft stronger, makes the bounce lower by an equal amount.

    Best of luck with your tinkering!
  3. Ryan

    Ryan
    East coast

    then the 56 14 would be a 54 12 (not 10) i believe
  4. Alexei G

    Alexei G
    Burton

    Delofting a club by 1 degree decreases the bounce by 1 degree approx. So -2 degrees = 2 degrees less bounce.
  5. Chris92009

    Chris92009
    Ohio

    2 degrees strong is no problem generally (or weak). Titleist recommends though you do not go more than that ....
  6. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    I had an SM6 60-12K that I bent to 57-09. When I went to have it bent back to 58, the hosel snapped. 2* is the max on cast clubs.
  7. Ryan

    Ryan
    East coast

    it also has to do with bend once ok bend twice bye bye. they are just like paper clips but less maleable amd more rigid
  8. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    it also has to do with bend once ok bend twice bye bye. they are just like paper clips but less maleable amd more rigid

    Lessons learned. Set it and forget it.
  9. Ben A

    Ben A
    Los Gatos, CA

    Alexei G, it's the other way around.... i'm sure you know that and just incorrectly wrote it.

    Bending a club face weaker, moves it away from the ground and therefore gives it more bounce.Making a clubs stronger, moves the face closer to the ground and therefore decreases the bounce...

    Hope that helps explain it!
  10. Drew D

    Drew D
    Missouri

    Isn’t delofting the same thing as making a club stronger? Think you’re both right haha.
  11. Ben A

    Ben A
    Los Gatos, CA

    "Isn’t delofting the same thing as making a club stronger? Think you’re both right haha."

    -DOH! That's what I get for multitasking!!! It's ok... I can laugh at myself. Not sure what was going on in my head with that one!

    My bad!
  12. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Less bounce. An M grind wedge is pretty versatile with 6* bounce
  13. TUser

    TUser

    So when it is all said and done, what is the general consensus on this... Is it better to bend from a higher loft to less loft, or bend from a lower loft to a higher loft to get the same result? Example- 56 to 55 or 54 to 55!
  14. Andrew K

    Andrew K
    MI

    For me it's about bounce. Do you want more or less depending on which way you go. I want less so my 52.08 would in theory turn into a 50.06 (or there about).
  15. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Higher loft to less loft. You increase the bounce when you go lower to higher. if you took a 58-12D and went less loft it would be 56-10D. If 54-08M with more loft it would be 56-10M. The grind is identical but there is a difference of 1/4" in shaft length.
  16. Ryan

    Ryan
    East coast

    higher loft down... i.e. 46-10 to 44-08...which i am doing today...thanks for the info TT!!!
  17. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    TUser said:

    So when it is all said and done, what is the general consensus on this... Is it better to bend from a higher loft to less loft, or bend from a lower loft to a higher loft to get the same result? Example- 56 to 55 or 54 to 55!

    Better bend strong. Less bounce can be easier to play.
  18. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    My question is why bother changing the loft if there is only 6* gap between the 46 and 52? 6* is only a 15 yard gap. All you have to do is choke down just a little. From the 8 iron down to the 62* wedge my gaps are 6*.
  19. Adam H

    Adam H
    Florida

    I am considering the same, going from 52.08 to a 50 degrees (sm6). If I were to have the loft adjusted to 50 degrees, the bounce would go to 6degrees. My question is if it is possible to adjust the bounce back to 8 degrees through grinding the sole?
  20. Adam H

    Adam H
    Florida

    I am considering the same, going from 52.08 to a 50 degrees (sm6). If I were to have the loft adjusted to 50 degrees, the bounce would go to 6degrees. My question is if it is possible to adjust the bounce back to 8 degrees through grinding the sole?
  21. Dale V

    Dale V
    Surprise AZ

    Not really. You can grind down but not up. You would have to cut into the leading edge and grooves to get the desired bounce. You also would be loosing quite a bit of weight. Since the gap wedge is usually played for fairway shots my suggestion would be just play it bent with less bounce and if you feel the leading edge is digging in too much, just move on to the SM7 with 50 degrees as standard.
  22. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Andrew K said:

    How many have bent your wedges 2* Strong? I currently have SM6 52* and 56* wedges and my new PW will be 46* (AP2). I really don't want to buy new wedges to fill in the gap. My thought process is to take the 52 and turn it into a 50 and 56 into a 54 and add a 58. My 52 has 8* of bounce and the 56 has 14*. I don't want to lower the loft as I feel the bounce will be too much.

    I've been bending wedges for quite some time. My current setup is 44-52-58-64. The first 3 are actually bent 2* strong. I don't carry a 9 iron and PW so the Vokey 46-10 bent to 44 has been working for 3 years now. I've played a 50* wedge stock for quite some time but switched to a 54-10S bent to 52 with the primary reason being (besides stopping the ball) is that the latter is more solid. 12* bounce in a K grind seems to work in a wide variety of conditions. I switched to K grind from M grind (I played the latter for about 8 years and had been flip-flopping between K and M grind since playing Torrey Pines in 2018). Always played M grind 2* strong because I felt more comfortable with the bounce. I also seemed to fare better with a 60* lob wedge bent to 58.
  23. Mike Y

    Mike Y

    I'm thinking about doing the same with my SM9 46 deg - looking to change it to 45 or 44 deg as I'm getting the T100S so the 9 iron to PW gapping will be different. Do you feel the delofting by 2 deg made a noticeable impact on your bounce/turf interaction? I understand it will decrease the bounce by 2 deg, but did it have a significant impact on playability?
  24. nspain

    nspain

    I am thinking about changing the lie on my wedges to 2 degree flat ? What do you think ?
  25. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    nspain said:

    I am thinking about changing the lie on my wedges to 2 degree flat ? What do you think ?

    I play my 9 iron, PW and 54-12D at 66*lie angle. My 58 and 64 are 66.5. I’m 6’1” tall. 9 and P are 1/2” short. The others are stock length.

    If you want to hit them properly have the fitter use a lie board. The problem with a flat lie is it causes the ball to push, slice or block.
  26. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    Military

    nspain said:

    I am thinking about changing the lie on my wedges to 2 degree flat ? What do you think ?

    When I was fit for my Titleist irons a number of years ago by the Titleist product specialist in our area, who has been with the company for, I am guessing around thirty years, he fit me for 2* flat. The previous big block store fitter has my clubs set a 2* up and I was all over the place with my irons. Guess they wanted to make a sale more than get the right fit. Titleist certified fitters are very experienced and would not put me in the wrong set up that would make me push, slice or block my shots. We were hitting my seven dead on the flag from 155 yards. I only go to fitters I trust and feel that 2* flat is the right set up for me. Everyone is different and you need to trust your fitter. Push, slice or block has a lot to do more with the individual, their setup and contact. Maybe a little quick.
  27. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    I tried for years to be my own expert on clubs, shafts, and loft/lie. Almost always wrong. I now trust the advice of a fitter Much cheaper than therapy to get over the guilt of wasting more money doing it myself than getting it right with actual experts.
  28. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    My 4 wedge setup is 48-53-58-64. The 53 is a 54-12D bent strong. My 3 wedge setup is 48-56-64. The 56 is 58-12D bent strong. I carried a 58–14K bent to 56 previously.
  29. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Three loft setup. 48-56-64. 695MB PW and Wedgeworks 64. 58–14K bent to 56 if I use a carry bag. If I don’t know course conditions, 56-12D and 58-04T bent to 56. No rule in golf says you MUST use 52-56-60.
  30. chris j

    chris j

    ive tried any wege you name it and the only thing that seemed fit where the vokeys sim9 and sim7 i play only with a 50 and 56 the best thing about them is that i can feel the spin on the ball as soon as i make contact

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